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	<title>Comments on: 1 Thessalonians 5:18</title>
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	<description>by Dr. Grant C. Richison</description>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is  God&#039;s desire that we allow ourselves the liberty to see Him in all places and things in our lives. The good and the bad and all in between. It&#039;s not that God is bad or even desire or allows the bad but that He is with us through it all. He is there to keep us, but we have to allow Him to  do the things He see best for us. To restore us, to heal and deliver us, but He can only do these things if and when we allow Him. Free wil we want the right to chose, but when things aren&#039;t right we want someone to blame, and normally its God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is  God&#8217;s desire that we allow ourselves the liberty to see Him in all places and things in our lives. The good and the bad and all in between. It&#8217;s not that God is bad or even desire or allows the bad but that He is with us through it all. He is there to keep us, but we have to allow Him to  do the things He see best for us. To restore us, to heal and deliver us, but He can only do these things if and when we allow Him. Free wil we want the right to chose, but when things aren&#8217;t right we want someone to blame, and normally its God.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jema, Assuming the principle of free will as noted in my comment to Dumas, we cannot negate the sovereignty of God in every detail of our lives otherwise we cannot &quot;give thanks in everything.&quot; If God is not sovereign then we have a dualism in the universe--Satan and God. We would not know which of the two would win. Biblically, there is no question who will win because He is sovereign. He controls everything in our lives either by His direct or permissive will. 

Note this study on Divine Decree:

DIVINE DECREE

by Dr Grant C. Richison

I. DEFINITION

A. IT IS GOD’S ETERNAL PLAN

B. IT IS GOD’S ETERNAL, HOLY, WISE AND SOVEREIGN PURPOSE, COMPREHENDING AT ONCE ALL THINGS THAT EVER WERE OR WILL BE–IN THEIR CAUSES, COURSES, SUCCESSIONS AND RELATIONS–AND DETERMINING CERTAIN FUTURITION.

C. IN REALITY, THERE IS ONLY ONE DECREE–THE SUM TOTAL OF GOD’S PLAN.

D. THE OMNISCIENCE OF GOD IS THE KEY TO UNDERSTANDING THE DECREES.

1. SELF-KNOWLEDGE= GOD KNOWS HIMSELF TOTALLY.

2. OMNISCIENCE= GOD KNOWS ALL THINGS OUTSIDE HIMSELF BOTH ACTUALLY AND POSSIBLY.

3. FOREKNOWLEDGE= THIS ACKNOWLEDGES THE ACTUAL FACTS OF REALITY–FOREKNOWLEDGE MAKES NOTHING CERTAIN, IT ONLY ACKNOWLEDGES WHAT IS CERTAIN.

II. FUNCTION OF THE DECREE

A.OMNISCIENCE=

1. GOD KNOWS PERFECTLY, ETERNALLY, AND SIMULTANEOUSLY ALL THAT IS KNOWABLE, BOTH THE ACTUAL AND THE POSSIBLE.

2. SUCH PERCEPTION AND SAGACITY IS TOTALLY COMPATIBLE WITH HIS ESSENCE.

3. OMNISCIENCE SEES THE FREE AS FREE, THE NECESSARY AS NECESSARY, TOGETHER WITH ALL THEIR CAUSES, CONDITIONS, AND RELATIONS, AS ONE UNDIVIDABLE SYSTEM OF THINGS, EVERY LINK OF WHICH IS ESSENTIAL TO THE INTEGRITY OF THE WHOLE. EVERY CAUSE AND EFFECT IS RELATED TO ANOTHER CAUSE AND EFFECT VOLITION IS THE UNCAUSED CAUSE OF HUMAN FUNCTION SO THAT THE COURSE OF HISTORY IS JUST AS MAN THINKS IT, WILLS IT, DOES IT. “PREDESTINATION” DOES NOT MEAN THAT GOD FORCES US INTO AN ACTION. EVEN THOUGH GOD KNEW WHICH WAY YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO GO AND DECREED ONLY THAT ONE TO BECOME REALITY, HE KNOWS ALL THE REPERCUSSIONS OF EACH ALTERNATIVE.

B. THE DECREE ITSELF=

1. THE DECREES ARE THE COMPLETE AND CONSUMMATED RIGHT OF THE SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD TO DETERMINE THE CERTAIN FUTURITION OF ALL THINGS.

a. GOD HAS RIGHTS.

b. GOD HAS EXERCISED THIS RIGHT TO MAKE ALL THINGS CERTAIN.

2. NO EVENT IS DIRECTLY EFFECTED OR CAUSED BY THE DECREE

THE DECREE MERELY ESTABLISHES WHAT WILL BE CAUSED, BUT THE DECREE ITSELF IS NOT THE CAUSE. THE CAUSE MAY BE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FREE WILL OF AN INDIVIDUAL. 

3. THE CAUSE OF SOME EVENTS IS THE FREE WILL OF MAN; BUT THIS, ON THE OTHER HAND, DOES NOT MEAN THAT MAN’S WILL IS BEYOND GOD’S CONTROL (THAT MAN CAN CAUSE THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN THE DIVINE DECREES)

a. GOD HAS DECIDED IN ETERNITY PAST WHAT HUMAN BEINGS WOULD BE LIKE: WE WOULD BE RATIONAL CREATURES WITH FREE WILL. OUR SOULS WOULD HAVE SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS.

b. BECAUSE GOD CANNOT CONTRADICT HIS OWN NATURE, THE ESSENCE AND ATTRIBUTES OF GOD NECESSITATED HIS WILLING THE HIGHEST AND BEST FOR MANKIND.

C. ELECTION, FOREKNOWLEDGE AND PREDESTINATION FLOW FROM THE DIVINE DECREES.

1. THESE TERMS DESCRIBE THE ACT OF THE INFINITE, ETERNAL OMNISCIENCE OF GOD WHICH DETERMINED THE CERTAIN FUTURITION OF EVENTS RELATED TO THE BELIEVER.

2. GOD’S DECREES NEVER ORIGINATE FROM HIS FOREKNOWLEDGE, ALTHOUGH ALL 3 EXIST SIMULTANEOUSLY IN THE MIND OF GOD. THE SEPARATION IS LOGICAL, NOT CHRONOLOGICAL.

3. ELECTION IS THE PLAN OF GOD FOR BELIEVERS ONLY.

ELECTION IS GOD’S COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH HIS OWN FOREKNOWLEDGE, I PET. 1:2.

a. GOD KNEW AHEAD OF TIME WHO WOULD CHOOSE FREELY TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST

b. GOD DECREED THAT SUCH AN ACT OF FAITH WOULD ACTUALLY OCCUR.

c. GOD AGREED NOT ONLY THAT THEIR POSITIVE VOLITION TO CHRIST WOULD OCCUR AT A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME BUT ALSO THAT ALL THE BLESSINGS OF SALVATION PLUS CERTAIN UNIQUE BLESSINGS WOULD BE THEIR ETERNAL POSSESSIONS (EPH. 1:4; II THES. 2:13).

4. ELECTION IS DECLARED THROUGH GOD’S FOREKNOWLEDGE; ELECTION IS A FUNCTION OF PREDESTINATION. II TIM 1:9; EPH 1:5 (THE BELIEVER SHARES THE DESTINY OF CHRIST; WE ALSO SHARE IN THE ELECTION OF CHRIST (ISA. 41:2; I PET 2:6).

III. CHARACTERISTICS

A. DECREES INCLUDE ALL THE FACTS OF HISTORY

B. THERE IS ONE ALL-INCLUSIVE WILL AND PURPOSE OF GOD CONCERNING ALL THAT EVER WILL BE.

C. THE DECREES ORIGINATED ENTIRELY WITHIN HIMSELF.

D. THE DECREES ARE EFFICACIOUS–THE DIRECT WORK OF GOD–HIS WORK ALWAYS SUCCEEDS IN ITS INTENDED EFFECT.

E. THE DECREES GUARANTEE CERTAINTY.

F. THE DECREES ARE ALL-COMPREHENSIVE.

G. THE DECREES ARE ETERNAL.

H. THE DECREES WERE ALL DECREED SIMULTANEOUSLY.

I. THE DECREES ARE PERFECT.

J. GOD’S PERFECT PLAN INCLUDES ALL IMPERFECT PERSONS, BUT HE MAINTAINS HIS PERFECTION AND INTEGRITY THROUGH HIS POLICY OF GRACE.

K. THE DECREES OF GOD ARE UNCHANGEABLE AND CERTAIN.

UNCHANGEABLE–BECAUSE IT ONLY DEALS WITH REALITY.

CERTAIN–BECAUSE OMNISCIENCE ALWAYS KNEW THAT THESE THINGS WOULD OCCUR UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE PARTICULAR MOMENT IN HISTORY.

L. THE DECREES ARE THE FREE CHOICE OF DIVINE SOVEREIGNTY.

M. GOD HAS DECREED ENDS AS WELL AS MEANS, CAUSES AS WELL AS EFFECTS, CONDITIONS AND INSTRUMENTALITIES AS WELL AS THE EVENTS WHICH DEPEND UPON THEM.

N. SOME THINGS GOD DECREED TO DO HIMSELF.
WE CALL THESE THINGS “IMMEDIATE” THINGS IN CONTRAST TO “MEDIATE” THINGS WHICH HE DECREED THAT SOME OTHER AGENCY, SUCH AS THE FREE WILL OF MAN, WOULD PERFORM.

E.G.=CREATION IS “IMMEDIATE”

O. GOD ACCOMPLISHES SOME THINGS THROUGH SECONDARY CAUSES ACTING UNDER THE LAW OF NECESSITY.

P. ALL EVENTS ARE EQUALLY CERTAIN TO OCCUR WHETHER PRIMARY OR SECONDARY CAUSES.

Q. WE MUST DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE DECREES OF GOD AND THE DESIRES OF GOD.

R. DISTINCTION MUST BE MADE BETWEEN THE DECREES OF GOD AND THE LAWS OF GOD (SET UP FOR HUMAN VOLITION)

IV. CONCURSUS VS ALL THINGS TO THE IMMEDIATE AGENCY OF GOD

A. ONE ADMITS AND THE OTHER DENIES THE REALITY AND EFFICIENCY OF SECOND CAUSES.

B. ONE MAKES NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN FREE AND NECESSARY EVENTS; THE OTHER ADMITS THE VALIDITY AND UNSPEAKABLE IMPORTANCE OF THIS DISTINCTION.

C. THE ONE ASSERTS AND THE OTHER DENIES THAT THE AGENCY OF GOD IS THE SAME IN SINFUL ACTS THAT IT IS IN GOOD ACTS.

D. ONE ADMITS THAT GOD IS THE AUTHOR OF SIN, THE OTHER REPUDIATES THAT.

E. FREE AGENCY MEANS:

1. WE HAVE POWER (NATURAL) TO ACT FREELY;

2. TO ACT FREELY IMPLIES WE ORIGINATE OUR OWN ACTS.

F. THIS IS NOT INCONSISTENT WITH OUR LIBERTY TO BE INDUCED TO EXERT OUR ABILITY TO ACT BY CONSIDERATIONS ADDRESSED TO OUR REASON OR INCLINATIONS.

1. GOD CAN HINDER AN ACTION;

2. GOD CAN DETERMINE AN ACTION.

G. RELATION OF PROVIDENCE TO FREEDOM:

1. GOD SOMETIMES ALLOWS MAN TO DO AS HE PLEASES — PUTS RESTRAINTS IN THE WAY.

2. GOD SOMETIMES KEEPS A MAN FROM DOING WHAT IN HIS FREEDOM HE WOULD OTHERWISE DO.

HE USES CIRCUMSTANCES, INFLUENCE OF FRIENDS, INNER RESTRAINTS TO ACCOMPLISH HIS PURPOSE.

3. GOD OVERRULES WHAT MAN DOES TO HIS OWN ENDS.

HE EVEN MAKES THE WRATH OF MAN TO PRAISE HIM.

H. E.G. = PRAYER

1. GOD DOES SOME THINGS ONLY IN ANSWER TO PRAYER.

2. GOD DOES SOME THINGS WITHOUT PRAYER.

3. GOD DOES SOME THINGS CONTRARY TO PRAYER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jema, Assuming the principle of free will as noted in my comment to Dumas, we cannot negate the sovereignty of God in every detail of our lives otherwise we cannot &#8220;give thanks in everything.&#8221; If God is not sovereign then we have a dualism in the universe&#8211;Satan and God. We would not know which of the two would win. Biblically, there is no question who will win because He is sovereign. He controls everything in our lives either by His direct or permissive will. </p>
<p>Note this study on Divine Decree:</p>
<p>DIVINE DECREE</p>
<p>by Dr Grant C. Richison</p>
<p>I. DEFINITION</p>
<p>A. IT IS GOD’S ETERNAL PLAN</p>
<p>B. IT IS GOD’S ETERNAL, HOLY, WISE AND SOVEREIGN PURPOSE, COMPREHENDING AT ONCE ALL THINGS THAT EVER WERE OR WILL BE–IN THEIR CAUSES, COURSES, SUCCESSIONS AND RELATIONS–AND DETERMINING CERTAIN FUTURITION.</p>
<p>C. IN REALITY, THERE IS ONLY ONE DECREE–THE SUM TOTAL OF GOD’S PLAN.</p>
<p>D. THE OMNISCIENCE OF GOD IS THE KEY TO UNDERSTANDING THE DECREES.</p>
<p>1. SELF-KNOWLEDGE= GOD KNOWS HIMSELF TOTALLY.</p>
<p>2. OMNISCIENCE= GOD KNOWS ALL THINGS OUTSIDE HIMSELF BOTH ACTUALLY AND POSSIBLY.</p>
<p>3. FOREKNOWLEDGE= THIS ACKNOWLEDGES THE ACTUAL FACTS OF REALITY–FOREKNOWLEDGE MAKES NOTHING CERTAIN, IT ONLY ACKNOWLEDGES WHAT IS CERTAIN.</p>
<p>II. FUNCTION OF THE DECREE</p>
<p>A.OMNISCIENCE=</p>
<p>1. GOD KNOWS PERFECTLY, ETERNALLY, AND SIMULTANEOUSLY ALL THAT IS KNOWABLE, BOTH THE ACTUAL AND THE POSSIBLE.</p>
<p>2. SUCH PERCEPTION AND SAGACITY IS TOTALLY COMPATIBLE WITH HIS ESSENCE.</p>
<p>3. OMNISCIENCE SEES THE FREE AS FREE, THE NECESSARY AS NECESSARY, TOGETHER WITH ALL THEIR CAUSES, CONDITIONS, AND RELATIONS, AS ONE UNDIVIDABLE SYSTEM OF THINGS, EVERY LINK OF WHICH IS ESSENTIAL TO THE INTEGRITY OF THE WHOLE. EVERY CAUSE AND EFFECT IS RELATED TO ANOTHER CAUSE AND EFFECT VOLITION IS THE UNCAUSED CAUSE OF HUMAN FUNCTION SO THAT THE COURSE OF HISTORY IS JUST AS MAN THINKS IT, WILLS IT, DOES IT. “PREDESTINATION” DOES NOT MEAN THAT GOD FORCES US INTO AN ACTION. EVEN THOUGH GOD KNEW WHICH WAY YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO GO AND DECREED ONLY THAT ONE TO BECOME REALITY, HE KNOWS ALL THE REPERCUSSIONS OF EACH ALTERNATIVE.</p>
<p>B. THE DECREE ITSELF=</p>
<p>1. THE DECREES ARE THE COMPLETE AND CONSUMMATED RIGHT OF THE SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD TO DETERMINE THE CERTAIN FUTURITION OF ALL THINGS.</p>
<p>a. GOD HAS RIGHTS.</p>
<p>b. GOD HAS EXERCISED THIS RIGHT TO MAKE ALL THINGS CERTAIN.</p>
<p>2. NO EVENT IS DIRECTLY EFFECTED OR CAUSED BY THE DECREE</p>
<p>THE DECREE MERELY ESTABLISHES WHAT WILL BE CAUSED, BUT THE DECREE ITSELF IS NOT THE CAUSE. THE CAUSE MAY BE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FREE WILL OF AN INDIVIDUAL. </p>
<p>3. THE CAUSE OF SOME EVENTS IS THE FREE WILL OF MAN; BUT THIS, ON THE OTHER HAND, DOES NOT MEAN THAT MAN’S WILL IS BEYOND GOD’S CONTROL (THAT MAN CAN CAUSE THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN THE DIVINE DECREES)</p>
<p>a. GOD HAS DECIDED IN ETERNITY PAST WHAT HUMAN BEINGS WOULD BE LIKE: WE WOULD BE RATIONAL CREATURES WITH FREE WILL. OUR SOULS WOULD HAVE SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS.</p>
<p>b. BECAUSE GOD CANNOT CONTRADICT HIS OWN NATURE, THE ESSENCE AND ATTRIBUTES OF GOD NECESSITATED HIS WILLING THE HIGHEST AND BEST FOR MANKIND.</p>
<p>C. ELECTION, FOREKNOWLEDGE AND PREDESTINATION FLOW FROM THE DIVINE DECREES.</p>
<p>1. THESE TERMS DESCRIBE THE ACT OF THE INFINITE, ETERNAL OMNISCIENCE OF GOD WHICH DETERMINED THE CERTAIN FUTURITION OF EVENTS RELATED TO THE BELIEVER.</p>
<p>2. GOD’S DECREES NEVER ORIGINATE FROM HIS FOREKNOWLEDGE, ALTHOUGH ALL 3 EXIST SIMULTANEOUSLY IN THE MIND OF GOD. THE SEPARATION IS LOGICAL, NOT CHRONOLOGICAL.</p>
<p>3. ELECTION IS THE PLAN OF GOD FOR BELIEVERS ONLY.</p>
<p>ELECTION IS GOD’S COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH HIS OWN FOREKNOWLEDGE, I PET. 1:2.</p>
<p>a. GOD KNEW AHEAD OF TIME WHO WOULD CHOOSE FREELY TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST</p>
<p>b. GOD DECREED THAT SUCH AN ACT OF FAITH WOULD ACTUALLY OCCUR.</p>
<p>c. GOD AGREED NOT ONLY THAT THEIR POSITIVE VOLITION TO CHRIST WOULD OCCUR AT A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME BUT ALSO THAT ALL THE BLESSINGS OF SALVATION PLUS CERTAIN UNIQUE BLESSINGS WOULD BE THEIR ETERNAL POSSESSIONS (EPH. 1:4; II THES. 2:13).</p>
<p>4. ELECTION IS DECLARED THROUGH GOD’S FOREKNOWLEDGE; ELECTION IS A FUNCTION OF PREDESTINATION. II TIM 1:9; EPH 1:5 (THE BELIEVER SHARES THE DESTINY OF CHRIST; WE ALSO SHARE IN THE ELECTION OF CHRIST (ISA. 41:2; I PET 2:6).</p>
<p>III. CHARACTERISTICS</p>
<p>A. DECREES INCLUDE ALL THE FACTS OF HISTORY</p>
<p>B. THERE IS ONE ALL-INCLUSIVE WILL AND PURPOSE OF GOD CONCERNING ALL THAT EVER WILL BE.</p>
<p>C. THE DECREES ORIGINATED ENTIRELY WITHIN HIMSELF.</p>
<p>D. THE DECREES ARE EFFICACIOUS–THE DIRECT WORK OF GOD–HIS WORK ALWAYS SUCCEEDS IN ITS INTENDED EFFECT.</p>
<p>E. THE DECREES GUARANTEE CERTAINTY.</p>
<p>F. THE DECREES ARE ALL-COMPREHENSIVE.</p>
<p>G. THE DECREES ARE ETERNAL.</p>
<p>H. THE DECREES WERE ALL DECREED SIMULTANEOUSLY.</p>
<p>I. THE DECREES ARE PERFECT.</p>
<p>J. GOD’S PERFECT PLAN INCLUDES ALL IMPERFECT PERSONS, BUT HE MAINTAINS HIS PERFECTION AND INTEGRITY THROUGH HIS POLICY OF GRACE.</p>
<p>K. THE DECREES OF GOD ARE UNCHANGEABLE AND CERTAIN.</p>
<p>UNCHANGEABLE–BECAUSE IT ONLY DEALS WITH REALITY.</p>
<p>CERTAIN–BECAUSE OMNISCIENCE ALWAYS KNEW THAT THESE THINGS WOULD OCCUR UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE PARTICULAR MOMENT IN HISTORY.</p>
<p>L. THE DECREES ARE THE FREE CHOICE OF DIVINE SOVEREIGNTY.</p>
<p>M. GOD HAS DECREED ENDS AS WELL AS MEANS, CAUSES AS WELL AS EFFECTS, CONDITIONS AND INSTRUMENTALITIES AS WELL AS THE EVENTS WHICH DEPEND UPON THEM.</p>
<p>N. SOME THINGS GOD DECREED TO DO HIMSELF.<br />
WE CALL THESE THINGS “IMMEDIATE” THINGS IN CONTRAST TO “MEDIATE” THINGS WHICH HE DECREED THAT SOME OTHER AGENCY, SUCH AS THE FREE WILL OF MAN, WOULD PERFORM.</p>
<p>E.G.=CREATION IS “IMMEDIATE”</p>
<p>O. GOD ACCOMPLISHES SOME THINGS THROUGH SECONDARY CAUSES ACTING UNDER THE LAW OF NECESSITY.</p>
<p>P. ALL EVENTS ARE EQUALLY CERTAIN TO OCCUR WHETHER PRIMARY OR SECONDARY CAUSES.</p>
<p>Q. WE MUST DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE DECREES OF GOD AND THE DESIRES OF GOD.</p>
<p>R. DISTINCTION MUST BE MADE BETWEEN THE DECREES OF GOD AND THE LAWS OF GOD (SET UP FOR HUMAN VOLITION)</p>
<p>IV. CONCURSUS VS ALL THINGS TO THE IMMEDIATE AGENCY OF GOD</p>
<p>A. ONE ADMITS AND THE OTHER DENIES THE REALITY AND EFFICIENCY OF SECOND CAUSES.</p>
<p>B. ONE MAKES NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN FREE AND NECESSARY EVENTS; THE OTHER ADMITS THE VALIDITY AND UNSPEAKABLE IMPORTANCE OF THIS DISTINCTION.</p>
<p>C. THE ONE ASSERTS AND THE OTHER DENIES THAT THE AGENCY OF GOD IS THE SAME IN SINFUL ACTS THAT IT IS IN GOOD ACTS.</p>
<p>D. ONE ADMITS THAT GOD IS THE AUTHOR OF SIN, THE OTHER REPUDIATES THAT.</p>
<p>E. FREE AGENCY MEANS:</p>
<p>1. WE HAVE POWER (NATURAL) TO ACT FREELY;</p>
<p>2. TO ACT FREELY IMPLIES WE ORIGINATE OUR OWN ACTS.</p>
<p>F. THIS IS NOT INCONSISTENT WITH OUR LIBERTY TO BE INDUCED TO EXERT OUR ABILITY TO ACT BY CONSIDERATIONS ADDRESSED TO OUR REASON OR INCLINATIONS.</p>
<p>1. GOD CAN HINDER AN ACTION;</p>
<p>2. GOD CAN DETERMINE AN ACTION.</p>
<p>G. RELATION OF PROVIDENCE TO FREEDOM:</p>
<p>1. GOD SOMETIMES ALLOWS MAN TO DO AS HE PLEASES — PUTS RESTRAINTS IN THE WAY.</p>
<p>2. GOD SOMETIMES KEEPS A MAN FROM DOING WHAT IN HIS FREEDOM HE WOULD OTHERWISE DO.</p>
<p>HE USES CIRCUMSTANCES, INFLUENCE OF FRIENDS, INNER RESTRAINTS TO ACCOMPLISH HIS PURPOSE.</p>
<p>3. GOD OVERRULES WHAT MAN DOES TO HIS OWN ENDS.</p>
<p>HE EVEN MAKES THE WRATH OF MAN TO PRAISE HIM.</p>
<p>H. E.G. = PRAYER</p>
<p>1. GOD DOES SOME THINGS ONLY IN ANSWER TO PRAYER.</p>
<p>2. GOD DOES SOME THINGS WITHOUT PRAYER.</p>
<p>3. GOD DOES SOME THINGS CONTRARY TO PRAYER.</p>
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		<title>By: Jema</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It cannot possibly be said that &quot;whatever comes into our lives comes in by the will of God.&quot; Surely not! If freewill is what allows man to make wrong decisions, this is not God&#039;s will for man.
God&#039;s Will is always good never bad. He wants people to chose Him; to live for Him; and put Him first. He died because His Will is that no man should perish. But, when bad things happen God is able to take it, and turn it around for our good. He is just incompareable when it comes to doing this. He does it with such ease and finesse that we are often stunned. But in retrospect, we can see, how, even thought the bad happened, God brougnt us through to good.  

I often shudder when I hear folk say that &quot;God has allowed this and that to happen&quot; because this points the finger at God and not at the offender. We live in a world where people don&#039;t want to take responsibility for their actions and it&#039;s easy today to &quot;pass the buck&quot;. God allows it in the sense that He has given man free will but he had nothing to do with that man&#039;s judgement or choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It cannot possibly be said that &#8220;whatever comes into our lives comes in by the will of God.&#8221; Surely not! If freewill is what allows man to make wrong decisions, this is not God&#8217;s will for man.<br />
God&#8217;s Will is always good never bad. He wants people to chose Him; to live for Him; and put Him first. He died because His Will is that no man should perish. But, when bad things happen God is able to take it, and turn it around for our good. He is just incompareable when it comes to doing this. He does it with such ease and finesse that we are often stunned. But in retrospect, we can see, how, even thought the bad happened, God brougnt us through to good.  </p>
<p>I often shudder when I hear folk say that &#8220;God has allowed this and that to happen&#8221; because this points the finger at God and not at the offender. We live in a world where people don&#8217;t want to take responsibility for their actions and it&#8217;s easy today to &#8220;pass the buck&#8221;. God allows it in the sense that He has given man free will but he had nothing to do with that man&#8217;s judgement or choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://versebyversecommentary.com/1999/08/23/1-thessalonians-518/comment-page-1/#comment-3629</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumas, thanks for your comments. I agree that rapists and women beaters need to be dealt with summarily. These events are not God&#039;s doing; God gave mankind freewill and the result is sin (violation of the character of God). The reason Christ came was to die for the sins of man including yours and mine. 

It is a bit puzzling why religious leaders would quote the passage about God putting us in the womb as referring to rape or woman beating. That passage refers to a child being a child from conception, not birth. It is a pro-life passage. You may have misunderstood them in this respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumas, thanks for your comments. I agree that rapists and women beaters need to be dealt with summarily. These events are not God&#8217;s doing; God gave mankind freewill and the result is sin (violation of the character of God). The reason Christ came was to die for the sins of man including yours and mine. </p>
<p>It is a bit puzzling why religious leaders would quote the passage about God putting us in the womb as referring to rape or woman beating. That passage refers to a child being a child from conception, not birth. It is a pro-life passage. You may have misunderstood them in this respect.</p>
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		<title>By: c dumas</title>
		<link>http://versebyversecommentary.com/1999/08/23/1-thessalonians-518/comment-page-1/#comment-3615</link>
		<dc:creator>c dumas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it verydifficult to believe that q woman being beating beaten and raped and getting pregnant is Go&#039;s doing. I have heard some famious religious counselors respond to women in this horrific situation quote the scriptur &#039; and I formed you in your womb&quot;. After 10 years in the criminal justice field with a degrees in criminal justice and religious studies and sociplpgy backgrounds I know that rapist , their minds can pass it on to to offspring. If the Christ god allows this, I don&#039;t want to know about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it verydifficult to believe that q woman being beating beaten and raped and getting pregnant is Go&#8217;s doing. I have heard some famious religious counselors respond to women in this horrific situation quote the scriptur &#8216; and I formed you in your womb&#8221;. After 10 years in the criminal justice field with a degrees in criminal justice and religious studies and sociplpgy backgrounds I know that rapist , their minds can pass it on to to offspring. If the Christ god allows this, I don&#8217;t want to know about.</p>
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